Saturday, 29 June 2019

Oscilloscope probe measure squarewave


As I was trying to validate our pcb design, I measured the impedance matching on the digital transmission lines, and got stuck with the oscilloscope not showing what I expected. We are using the PicoScope 4227, but I suspect that the strange measurement is not directly related to the specific oscilloscope but more to general on how to measure digital signals.



My setup is as follow: I measure the output-pin of an FPGA with both oscilloscope input A and B.


Input A (blue) is measured using the oscilloscope probe set to x10.


Input B (red) is measured using a 50-ohm coxial cable terminated at the scope input with 50-ohm.


As you can see, Input B seems correct, no reflection ect.


But Input A (the probe) has some overshoot, and ringing.


The probe should be calibrated and valid to 250MHz, so I don't get was is wrong. ?


I suspect that the small probe-clip adds some inductance, and therefore we see the ringing. But I really don't know.


oscilloscope screenshot


EDIT After reading your answers, I walked got into our lab storage and started looking, and found a probe GND clip like the one showed in the answer below.


When I use that clip, I get the output below. Which is really a huge improvement.



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Answer



Yep, this is typical when your ground connection is not suitable for the frequencies you're working with. You may want to use a ground spring to reduce both the inductance-related peak and the noise:


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