Wednesday 27 April 2016

Oscilloscope makes my mains (fuse box) group go down


(Don't know if I should make a new question, but it's partly related to my previous question).



I bought an old second hand oscilloscope (see Is my oscilloscope working or not?), a Philips PM 3253.


After some initial problems (and help of Electrical Engineering) I got it to work, however, except for the first half an hour, now every 10 minutes the mains group of the house goes 'down'... I don't know the exact English term... It means I have to go to the 'fuse box' close of the house to turn on the group switch back on.


Is there some easy solution for this or things to check on the oscilloscope, or is it some setting causing it?


(My electrical knowledge is not high)


At the end of the day I could have the power on for half an hour on without having the computer (on the same group on). Today I used a separate power mains outlet for the oscilloscope; maybe I put too many devices on an extension box. I will leave both on for an hour to see if it helps.


Update: I did some more testing and the solution was putting the power of the oscilloscope directly to a wall outlet (and not running through extension outlets).


Also I have added a cable to ground from a wall outlet to the oscilloscope GND input on the back.


I still have some problems with the oscilloscope but I will spend another post to it after I did some more tries to fix it myself. Thanks for your help!



Answer



Older equipment like this frequently has bypass capacitors connected between the wires of the power input, supposedly for noise reduction. There will frequently be one between Line and Ground and another between Neutral and Ground. These capacitors leak enough current to trip a modern GFCI — something that wasn't a concern back when the equipment was designed.



The fix is to open up the scope, find the capacitors, and disconnect them. If you're not comfortable doing this yourself, find a friend who has the necessary knowledge. One source of such a friend (if you don't already have one) would be a local "maker space" or "hacker space".


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